Scores from Flying Coffins Fun Day Mar 5, 2011

[Swordfish]

Here are the scores from the Flying Coffins Fun Day Mar 5, 2011. If you notice anything in the score that is wrong or inconsistent with the rules, please let me know.

Edit:
The scores have been updated with penalty points, see my post below. We now congratulate the Allied team to their victory, and send our condolences to the Central team for loosing the game on penalty points.

Let this be a lesson for everyone; double-check your plane type and drome location before you enter the game!

S!wordfish

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*        Red Baron Scoring Utility
*          Nebulous Enterprises
*              v3.0.0j beta
*
*       Match Date: 03/05/11
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*       Score Date: 03-06-2011
*       Score Time: 21:46:44
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*      Server Name: Flying Coffins Fun Day
*       Server Map: Flanders
*       Setup File: Flying Coffins.rbs
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*                SCORE LOG
*------------------------------------------

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1. SUMMARY REPORT
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  Central Score:
        Pre-penalty Score:   23
           Penalty Points: -121
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      FINAL CENTRAL SCORE:  -98

   Allied Score:
        Pre-penalty Score:  -26
           Penalty Points:   -6
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       FINAL ALLIED SCORE:  -32

  Total Central Pilots: 10   Max Central Pilots In: 10   Central Active Dromes: A94 A105 A118 A132
   Total Allied Pilots:  8    Max Allied Pilots In:  8    Allied Active Dromes: A96 A109 A121 A143


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2. ROSTER REPORT
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                              Kill  Death AA/M         Tgt  Total  Target
  Central Pilots        Kills  Pts   Pts   Pts   Tgts  Pts   Pts   List
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  CannonGT                 1     3     4     4     2     7     2   B302, F318
  J9_Muttley_EDp           2     5     4     0     1     0     1   A108
  J9_Witzer                3    10     4     0     1     3     9   F317
  JGS4_AirSurfer           1     4     0     0     0     0     4   
  JGS4_NonoNano_91         2     6     0     0     0     0     6   
  JGS4Jabato32b            4    11     0     0     0     0    11   
  JGS4Jakoby34B_LT         0     0     0     4     0     0    -4   
  Monkey                   0     0     4     0     5    11     7   R211, B281, B279, V381, V377
  US95 NoMurC              0     0     4    20     3    10   -14   F316, B282, D204
  US95 Waldo P XO          1     4    12     0     4     9     1   R213, V397, B298, D194
                        ----  ----  ----  ----  ----  ----  ----
  Central Pilot Totals    14    43    32    28    16    40    23   

                      Penalties:       Max Pilots Exceeded:   -0 (0 min 0 sec)
                                              Scout Attack:   -0
                                           Friendly Target:   -0
                                            Invalid Target:   -0
              Score Adjustments:
                      Tgt bonus - Bridges, fact, RR, dumps:   20
                   Illegal plane type (J9_Muttley, Alb D3):  -97
                       Flying from repair drome (CannonGT):  -44
                                                            ----
                                       TOTAL CENTRAL SCORE:  -98


                              Kill  Death AA/M         Tgt  Total  Target
  Allied Pilots         Kills  Pts   Pts   Pts   Tgts  Pts   Pts   List
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  FogelGT                  0     0     8     0     4     7    -1   V378, B277, R228, V385
  FragelGT                 1     3     4     0     0     0    -1   
  RAC_Bandy_EDp            1     4     8     0     5     9     5   T337, F330, D202, V402, V403
  RAC_BigBertha            0     0     8     0     0     0    -8   
  RAC_Draegon              2     7     0     4     0     0     3   
  RAC_Flybert              2     6     4     8     0     0    -6   
  RAC_PatGarrett           1     4    20     0     1     4   -12   B285
  RAC_Swordfish            1     2     4     4     0     0    -6   
                        ----  ----  ----  ----  ----  ----  ----
  Allied Pilot Totals      8    26    56    16    10    20   -26   

                      Penalties:       Max Pilots Exceeded:   -0 (0 min 0 sec)
                                              Scout Attack:   -0
                                           Friendly Target:   -0
                                            Invalid Target:   -0
              Score Adjustments:
                              Exit in flight (RAC_Flybert):   -6
                                                            ----
                                        TOTAL ALLIED SCORE:  -32


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3. AIRCRAFT DAMAGE REPORT
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                  Central Planes                     Allied Planes
               --------------------              ---------------------
                  Albatros DII:   4                     Airco DH2:   0
                 Albatros DIII:   9                 Morane Bullet:   0
                   Albatros DV:   0                   Nieuport 11:   0
                    Fokker DRI:   0                   Nieuport 17:   2
                   Fokker DVII:   0                   Nieuport 24:   5
                   Fokker EIII:   0                   Nieuport 28:   1
               Halberstadt DII:   0                          SE5a:   3
                    Pfalz DIII:   1                 Sopwith Camel:   1
                    Pfalz DXII:   1                   Sopwith Pup:   4
                                                    Sopwith Snipe:   0
                                                 Sopwith Triplane:   0
                                                         SPAD VII:   2
                                                        SPAD XIII:   0
                               ----                               ----
     Central Planes Destroyed:   15      Allied Planes Destroyed:   18


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4. BOMBING DAMAGE REPORT
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          Allied Targets Destroyed           Central Targets Destroyed 
          -------------------------           ------------------------ 
                    Aerodromes:   1                    Aerodromes:   0
                  Supply Dumps:   2                  Supply Dumps:   1
                    Rail Yards:   2                    Rail Yards:   1
                       Bridges:   5                       Bridges:   2
                     Factories:   3                     Factories:   1
       Cities, Towns, Villages:   3       Cities, Towns, Villages:   5
                               ----                               ----
      Total Targets Destroyed:   16      Total Targets Destroyed:   10

   Allied Targets Destroyed: B302, F318, A108, F317, R211, B281, B279, V381, V377, F316, B282, D204, R213, V397, B298, D194

  Central Targets Destroyed: V378, B277, R228, V385, T337, F330, D202, V402, V403, B285


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5. PENALTY REPORT (SUMMARY)
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  Central Penalties
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                     Grace Period:   0 min
                                   --------------- 
        Total time over 14 pilots:   0 min  0 sec    penalty:  -0
       Targets attacked by scouts:   0               penalty:  -0
        Friendly targets attacked:   0               penalty:  -0
         Invalid targets attacked:   0               penalty:  -0
                                                             ----
                                    Central Penalty Subtotal:  -0

  Allied Penalties
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                     Grace Period:   0 min
                                   --------------- 
        Total time over 14 pilots:   0 min  0 sec    penalty:  -0
       Targets attacked by scouts:   0               penalty:  -0
        Friendly targets attacked:   0               penalty:  -0
         Invalid targets attacked:   0               penalty:  -0
                                                             ----
                                     Allied Penalty Subtotal:  -0



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6. PENALTY REPORT (DETAILED)
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  Central Penalties
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    Scout Attacked Targets

    Friendly Targets Bombed

    Invalid Targets Bombed


  Allied Penalties
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    Scout Attacked Targets

    Friendly Targets Bombed

    Invalid Targets Bombed


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7. MULTIPLE DEATH REPORT
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  Central Multiple Deaths Not Counted
  -----------------------------------


  Allied Multiple Deaths Not Counted
  -----------------------------------
    03/05/11-21:43:02|Kill of RAC_BigBertha (SPAD_VII) awarded to RAC_BigBertha (SPAD_VII)


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8. MULTIPLE BOMBING CREDIT REPORT
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  Central Multiple Bombing Credits Not Counted
  --------------------------------------------


  Allied Multiple Bombing Credits Not Counted
  --------------------------------------------


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9. SETTINGS REPORT
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Max Pilots Allowed: 14
  Multi-Death Time: 15 sec
      Grace Period:  0 min

  Points per Death:  4

  Aeroplane Values
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           Airco DH2:  0        Albatros DII:  3
       Morane Bullet:  0       Albatros DIII:  4
         Nieuport 11:  0         Albatros DV:  2
         Nieuport 17:  2          Fokker DRI:  4
         Nieuport 24:  4         Fokker DVII:  4
         Nieuport 28:  4         Fokker EIII:  0
                SE5a:  2     Halberstadt DII:  0
       Sopwith Camel:  4          Pfalz DIII:  2
         Sopwith Pup:  3          Pfalz DXII:  2
       Sopwith Snipe:  0
    Sopwith Triplane:  0
            SPAD VII:  2
           SPAD XIII:  0

  Bombed Target Values
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      Aerodrome ( A): 12          Bridge (5):  4
      Aerodrome (11):  0          Bridge (3):  4
      Aerodrome ( 8):  0          Bridge (R):  4
      Aerodrome ( 6):  0         Factory (5):  3
      Aerodrome ( 5):  0         Factory (4):  3
      Aerodrome ( T):  0      Rail Yard (--):  1
    Supply Dump ( 5):  3                 City  1
    Supply Dump ( 4):  3            Town (-):  1
    Supply Dump ( T):  3         Village (-):  1

  Penalty Points
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       Max Pilots Exceeded: 1.0 pts/min/pilot
    Invalid Targets Attack:   0 pts/target (not activated)
       Scout Target Attack:   0 pts/target
    Friendly Target Attack:   0 pts/target

  Authorized Central Bombers
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        Albatros DII
       Albatros DIII
          Pfalz DIII

  Authorized Allied Bombers
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         Nieuport 17
         Nieuport 24
         Sopwith Pup

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10. DISABLED LOG LINES
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(Not counted in scoring.)

[CannonGT]

My kill of the Pup (Bandy, I think?) should probably not count. I took off from a front drome just before that and didn't change until Draegon reminded me. Sorry, I remember reading that rule and just plain forgot when I entered.

[RAC_Bandy]

In Flying Coffins, that is a VERY SERIOUS ERROR !
Also my bridge became hardened ! sniff....
-iv. The penalty for entering upon a Repair Dromes is (-4) points per infraction.This penalty is assessed only against the Squad, not the Team Force. Rule 21-iii will not apply here.

-v. In addition to Rule 19-iv, while using a Repair Drome as an AHD all points obtained by the pilot will be lost. This is to include all kills, bombed targets and TGB points obtained during the length of the infraction. Any kill points and mech deaths attributed to the pilot in question will still be counted against the Team Force.

-vi. Also in addition, for every enemy bomber type aircraft downed by the unauthorized plane usage, a penalty of (-12) points will be assessed. This penalty is assessed only against the Squad, not the Team Force.

-vii . A further penalty will be assessed of (–1) point per minute (or any fraction thereof) for every minute he continues to use the Repair Drome as an AHD. This penalty is assessed only against the Squad, not the Team Force.

-viii. A player who enters and takes off from a repair drome shall exit immediately. Rule # 41 “Exiting in Flight” shall not apply here. Penalty rule #21.iii will not apply here because pilot was conforming to the rules concerning proper drome usage.

Holey Moley Batman! That might change the match's outcome!!
Baliff! Wack His PP!

[Flybert]

I sure don't remember 4? aa/mech deaths .. one if the mass boot counted .. but I couldn't even remember what drome I started from .. so maybe .. SE5a worth 2 pts .. so 8 aa/mech points = 4 times ? ..

[Muttley]

Flybert,
I know that mechs cost 4 for ANY plane. So if your plane is worth 2, better to be shot down than mech costing the team 4 points. But mass boot should not be a mech. NoMurc had connection problems I guess but it counted as 20 points so that's 5 mechs.

Also I see -20 penalty for Central, I guess that was for Cannon's rolling from wrong drome (-4), shooting down bomber (-12), and 4 minutes at -1 per maybe? Of course no matter, we are all still learning the rules. Compared to RBWar this game is rule hell! But so worth the effort, it's written that way to balance out the game. I always enjoy rocketing from a bomber, air to air at a fighter and they cannot rocket me (balance of no rear gunner defense).

Oh, when I entered there was only Cannon flying an Alby DIII but I did see NoMurc leave the game before I could see what he was flying. Of course I also didn't know if he would return. I see by the planes lost and the scores that NoMurc must have flow a DIII. That means we had 3 when NoMurc was in the game (don't know how long that was), but we should have penalty's against us for this also. I know it's a "fun day" but if Swordfish counts this against Central team, the rules say:

16. Each Squad is allowed to fly only one of each of the seven (7) types of aircraft available. Plane slots are not transferable between Squads.

-i. Any pilot whose entry into the game creates a violation of Rule #16 (having two planes of the same type) for his Squad has a 1-minute grace period to correct his error. After the 1-minute grace period has expired, the pilot’s assigned Squad will be assessed a penalty of (–1) point per minute (or any fraction thereof) for every minute he remains in the unauthorized aircraft. This pilot shall change planes at the first opportunity. Rule # 41 “Exiting in Flight” shall not apply here. All other applicable rules will still apply. This penalty is assessed only against the Squad, not the Team Force.

-ii. An additional penalty for a Squad having more than two (2) aircraft of any type within the flying arena will be the loss of all points obtained by the unauthorized second plane type during each infraction. This is to include all kills, bombed targets and TGB points. Any kill points and mech deaths attributed to the pilot in question will still be counted against his Team Force.

-iii. In addition, for every enemy bomber type aircraft downed by the unauthorized plane, a penalty of (-12) points will be assessed. This penalty is assessed against the Squad, not the Team Force.

17. Pilots may not change planes and will fly only one plane type for the duration of the match. The penalty for change of plane is (-8) points per infraction. This penalty is assessed against the Squad only, not the Team Force. (Exception: see Rule 18)

-i. In addition, all points obtained while flying the illegal aircraft during each infraction will be lost. This is to include all kills, bombed targets and TGB points. Any kill points and mech deaths attributed to the pilot in question will still be counted against the Team Force.

[Swordfish]

Salute!

Hmm, I realize that some adjustments need to be made to the score ...
Actually, I think it's good that these issues are brought up even if it's just a Fun Day match, because one of the objectives of the Fun Days are to test the rules and the scoring. It also illustrates the importance of knowing the rules before you take off ...

@Flybert:

Your 8 aa/mech points are from two deaths @ -4 points each (rule #40):

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    AA or Mechanical Failures
      21:48:18  Pilot's SE5a was lost.
      21:49:09  Pilot's SE5a was lost.
 

While checking the logs for this, I also noted that you had an illegal exit in flight :

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RED_FLAG, 03/05/11-21:35:06, RAC_Flybert, 75.47.185.74, exited the game, at location which was not near the player's home drome.

That will cost the allied team 6 points in penalty (rule # 41).

@CannonGt and RAC_Bandy:

The logs show that from 21:15 to 21:40, CannonGT flew from an illegal front line drome (#154):

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  03/05/11-21:13:41, CannonGT, 72.197.231.210, entered the game flying a ALBATROS_DIII, at drome #103., 
 03/05/11-21:14:43, CannonGT, 72.197.231.210, exited the game, at his home drome (#103)., 
 03/05/11-21:15:06, CannonGT, 72.197.231.210, entered the game flying a ALBATROS_DIII, at drome #154., Player changed dromes within grace period.
 03/05/11-21:26:04, CannonGT, 72.197.231.210, entered the game flying a ALBATROS_DIII, at drome #154., 
 03/05/11-21:37:59, CannonGT, 72.197.231.210, started new life, at drome #154., 
 03/05/11-21:40:14, CannonGT, 72.197.231.210, exited the game, but had died previous to exiting., 
RED_FLAG, 03/05/11-21:40:44, CannonGT, 72.197.231.210, entered the game flying a ALBATROS_DIII, at drome #132., Player changed dromes.
 03/05/11-22:02:04, CannonGT, 72.197.231.210, destroyed target #302., , 
 03/05/11-22:12:29, CannonGT, 72.197.231.210, destroyed target #318., , 

It is also clear that while doing so, he shot down Bandy who flew a Pup (= bomber).

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21:18:21  Pilot's Alb DIII shot down RAC_Bandy_EDp in a Pup.

Thus, the penalty points for the Central team will be as follows:

-4 points for entering at a front line repair drome (rule # 19 iv)
-3 points lost for illegal kill (kill of Bandy in a Pup, rule 19 v)
-12 points penalty for kill of a bomber, rule 19 vi)
-25 points for flying from a front line repair drome (-1 point per minute, rule 19 vii)

This adds up to -44 penalty points for the Central team ...

@J9_Muttley

The 20 points for Central are not penalty, they are target bonus points (note that they are listed by the scoring program as --20, i.e. -(-20) = +20.
If you check below the Roster report you will find a specification of the score adjustments.

Now, let's look into your criminal record ...
Both US95 NoMurC and CannonGT flew Alb D3's during the whole game. You were the third pilot to enter the game in an Alb D3 at 21:25:

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03/05/11-21:21:06, J9_Muttley_EDp, 74.92.238.174, entered the game flying a PFALZ_DIII, at drome #118., 
03/05/11-21:23:51, J9_Muttley_EDp, 74.92.238.174, exited the game, at his home drome (#118)., 
03/05/11-21:25:16, J9_Muttley_EDp, 74.92.238.174, entered the game flying a ALBATROS_DIII, at drome #118., 
03/05/11-21:26:29, J9_Muttley_EDp, 74.92.238.174, entered the game flying a ALBATROS_DIII, at drome #118., 
03/05/11-21:57:59, J9_Muttley_EDp, 74.92.238.174, started new life, at drome #118., 
03/05/11-22:21:24, J9_Muttley_EDp, 74.92.238.174, destroyed target #108., , 

While flying the illegal plane type, you also killed two planes, one of which was a bomber:

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21:42:48  Pilot's Alb DIII shot down RAC_BigBertha in a Spad VII.
21:42:57  Pilot's Alb DIII shot down RAC_Bandy_EDp in a Pup.

Thus, the penalty points for the Central team will be as follows:

-80 points for flying illegal plane type from 21:25 until end of game (-1 point per minute, rule # 16-i)
-5 points (Muttley's kill points deducted from score, rule # 16 -ii)
-12 points for illegal kill of bomber (rule # 16-iii)

This adds up to another -97 penalty points for the Central team ...

I will adjust the scores accordingly.

S!wordfish

[Flybert]

RED_FLAG, 03/05/11-21:35:06, RAC_Flybert, 75.47.185.74, exited the game, at location which was not near the player's home drome.

not an exit in flight reallty .. after the flame boot, I took off from the wrong drome (not my starting drome), returned, landed, stopped engine and exited as soon as I recognized my error .. I had actually forgotten which drome I had started the match from in my rush to re-enter after the boot, and selected the wrong drome

though it only wasted my time .. fair enough I suppose to only get the single exit penalty <sigh>

[PatGarrett]

I had actually forgotten which drome I had started the match from in my rush to re-enter after the boot, and selected the wrong drome

...actually, you'd forgotten long before any flamer boot....

Try gettin into TS a bit earlier, so that you'll know all that's going on....15 mins pre would been enough for the fundays....but when the tourney starts, I suggest 30 minutes, like all others do...especially since we need to hash out plane choices in this war.... ....... 666

[Flybert]

what's your problem Pat .. I never left the game except the Flamer Boot ..

I hardly ever the last in TS anyway .. and rarely is anything planned .. frankly I don't give damn darling ..

I'm just flying socially with my friends .. and tolerate you at the request of Drae ..