Re: Scores from Flying Coffins Fun Day April 03, 2011
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:42 am
S! Draegon...It's true...look at the map there are 3 factories.If not I sure wasted alot of time flying over to get F330 in the south.
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Re: Scores from Flying Coffins Fun Day April 03, 2011
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:58 am
Doh!
Re: Scores from Flying Coffins Fun Day April 03, 2011
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:57 pm
Salute!
I am very pleased to inform you that thanks to information provided by J30_Gunther, I believe that the problem with AA/mech death points has been resolved.
Apparently, the Red Baron Scoring Utility program does not differentiate between AA/mech deaths and "normal" deaths in the scoring settings. However, in the actual scoring setup file used by the program these two causes of death may have different values. This is an undocumented feature that was unknown to me, but Gunther has explained how to find it and change it.
I have modifed my FC scoring settings to be -4 points for AA/mech deaths and 0 points for "natural" cause of death, and the resulting corrected scores are posted below. The corrections did not affect the winner of the game, but at least the scores are now consistent with the rules. Congratulations to the Allied team!
From now on, FC games will be scored with -4 points for AA/mech deaths and 0 points for "natural" cause of death as stated in the rules. If you notice anything else in the score that is wrong or inconsistent with the rules, please let me know.
Many thanks to J30_Gunther for helping me resolve this issue!
BigBertha, being the assistant scorekeeper you'll get an email with the new setup.
S!wordfish
(What puzzles me is how J30 figured out this undocumented feature, and how many other tweaks that may be possible in the scoring. I wish that Chevelle was still around, since he wrote the program ...
)
I am very pleased to inform you that thanks to information provided by J30_Gunther, I believe that the problem with AA/mech death points has been resolved.
Apparently, the Red Baron Scoring Utility program does not differentiate between AA/mech deaths and "normal" deaths in the scoring settings. However, in the actual scoring setup file used by the program these two causes of death may have different values. This is an undocumented feature that was unknown to me, but Gunther has explained how to find it and change it.
I have modifed my FC scoring settings to be -4 points for AA/mech deaths and 0 points for "natural" cause of death, and the resulting corrected scores are posted below. The corrections did not affect the winner of the game, but at least the scores are now consistent with the rules. Congratulations to the Allied team!
From now on, FC games will be scored with -4 points for AA/mech deaths and 0 points for "natural" cause of death as stated in the rules. If you notice anything else in the score that is wrong or inconsistent with the rules, please let me know.
Many thanks to J30_Gunther for helping me resolve this issue!
BigBertha, being the assistant scorekeeper you'll get an email with the new setup.
S!wordfish
(What puzzles me is how J30 figured out this undocumented feature, and how many other tweaks that may be possible in the scoring. I wish that Chevelle was still around, since he wrote the program ...
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* Red Baron Scoring Utility
* Nebulous Enterprises
* v3.0.0j beta
*
* Match Date: 04/03/11
*
* Score Date: 04-05-2011
* Score Time: 20:29:18
*
* Server Name: Flying Coffins Fun Day
* Server Map: Flanders
* Setup File: Flying Coffins 3.rbs
*
* SCORE LOG
*------------------------------------------
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1. SUMMARY REPORT
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Central Score:
Pre-penalty Score: 57
Penalty Points: --20
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FINAL CENTRAL SCORE: 77
Allied Score:
Pre-penalty Score: 107
Penalty Points: --15
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FINAL ALLIED SCORE: 122
Total Central Pilots: 11 Max Central Pilots In: 10 Central Active Dromes: A94 A105 A118 A132
Total Allied Pilots: 10 Max Allied Pilots In: 10 Allied Active Dromes: A96 A109 A121 A143
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2. ROSTER REPORT
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Kill Death AA/M Tgt Total Target
Central Pilots Kills Pts Pts Pts Tgts Pts Pts List
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D3rWolF 0 0 0 4 0 0 -4
FogelGT 0 0 0 0 5 9 9 F318, D204, T339, V394, V377
FragelGT 0 0 0 8 0 0 -8
J9_Muttley_EDp 0 0 0 0 6 15 15 B302, R213, V405, B298, V397, B282
JGS4_AirSurfer 1 4 0 4 0 0 0
JGS4_JAKOBY_34B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
JGS4_Juanspain 1 4 0 0 1 1 5 R211
JGS4_NonoNano_91 6 19 0 0 0 0 19
JGS4_Shogun_32B 1 4 0 4 0 0 0
RAC_PatGarrett 0 0 0 0 6 15 15 F317, F316, D194, V387, B279, V381
Speshul ED 3 10 0 4 0 0 6
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
Central Pilot Totals 12 41 0 24 18 40 57
Penalties: Max Pilots Exceeded: -0 (0 min 0 sec)
Scout Attack: -0
Friendly Target: -0
Invalid Target: -0
Score Adjustments:
Target bonus (Dump, Fact, RR, Towns): 20
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TOTAL CENTRAL SCORE: 77
Kill Death AA/M Tgt Total Target
Allied Pilots Kills Pts Pts Pts Tgts Pts Pts List
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J9_Witzer 3 8 0 0 0 0 8
Monkey 0 0 0 4 1 4 0 B277
RAC_Arnold Layne 0 0 0 0 1 4 4 B301
RAC_Bandy_EDp 1 4 0 0 4 11 15 B285, V378, D201, F327
RAC_BigBertha 4 12 0 0 0 0 12
RAC_BlackWolf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
RAC_Draegon 4 11 0 0 0 0 11
RAC_Swordfish 1 2 0 0 5 7 9 D202, V402, V403, T337, T342
US95 NoMurC 1 2 0 0 8 38 40 B287, R228, V385, *A105, R229, F329, *A132, B295
WWFlybert 2 8 0 0 0 0 8
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Allied Pilot Totals 16 47 0 4 19 64 107
Penalties: Max Pilots Exceeded: -0 (0 min 0 sec)
Scout Attack: -0
Friendly Target: -0
Invalid Target: -0
Score Adjustments:
Target bonus (Bridge, Dump, RR): 15
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TOTAL ALLIED SCORE: 122
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3. AIRCRAFT DAMAGE REPORT
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Central Planes Allied Planes
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Albatros DII: 5 Airco DH2: 0
Albatros DIII: 2 Morane Bullet: 0
Albatros DV: 4 Nieuport 11: 0
Fokker DRI: 3 Nieuport 17: 3
Fokker DVII: 5 Nieuport 24: 4
Fokker EIII: 0 Nieuport 28: 3
Halberstadt DII: 0 SE5a: 0
Pfalz DIII: 2 Sopwith Camel: 0
Pfalz DXII: 1 Sopwith Pup: 3
Sopwith Snipe: 0
Sopwith Triplane: 0
SPAD VII: 0
SPAD XIII: 0
---- ----
Central Planes Destroyed: 22 Allied Planes Destroyed: 13
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4. BOMBING DAMAGE REPORT
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Allied Targets Destroyed Central Targets Destroyed
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Aerodromes: 0 Aerodromes: 2
Supply Dumps: 2 Supply Dumps: 2
Rail Yards: 2 Rail Yards: 2
Bridges: 4 Bridges: 5
Factories: 3 Factories: 2
Cities, Towns, Villages: 7 Cities, Towns, Villages: 6
---- ----
Total Targets Destroyed: 18 Total Targets Destroyed: 19
Allied Targets Destroyed: F318, D204, T339, V394, V377, B302, R213, V405, B298, V397, B282, R211, F317, F316, D194, V387, B279, V381
Central Targets Destroyed: B277, B301, B285, V378, D201, F327, D202, V402, V403, T337, T342, B287, R228, V385, *A105, R229, F329, *A132, B295
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5. PENALTY REPORT (SUMMARY)
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Central Penalties
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Grace Period: 0 min
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Total time over 14 pilots: 0 min 0 sec penalty: -0
Targets attacked by scouts: 0 penalty: -0
Friendly targets attacked: 0 penalty: -0
Invalid targets attacked: 0 penalty: -0
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Central Penalty Subtotal: -0
Allied Penalties
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Grace Period: 0 min
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Total time over 14 pilots: 0 min 0 sec penalty: -0
Targets attacked by scouts: 0 penalty: -0
Friendly targets attacked: 0 penalty: -0
Invalid targets attacked: 0 penalty: -0
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Allied Penalty Subtotal: -0
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6. PENALTY REPORT (DETAILED)
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Central Penalties
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Scout Attacked Targets
Friendly Targets Bombed
Invalid Targets Bombed
Allied Penalties
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Scout Attacked Targets
Friendly Targets Bombed
Invalid Targets Bombed
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7. MULTIPLE DEATH REPORT
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Central Multiple Deaths Not Counted
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Allied Multiple Deaths Not Counted
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04/03/11-22:36:30|Kill of RAC_Swordfish (SOPWITH_PUP) awarded to RAC_Swordfish (SOPWITH_PUP)
04/03/11-22:37:30|Kill of US95 NoMurC (NIEUPORT_24) awarded to JGS4_NonoNano_91 (FOKKER_DRI)
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8. MULTIPLE BOMBING CREDIT REPORT
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Central Multiple Bombing Credits Not Counted
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Allied Multiple Bombing Credits Not Counted
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9. SETTINGS REPORT
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Max Pilots Allowed: 14
Multi-Death Time: 15 sec
Grace Period: 0 min
Points per Death: 0
Aeroplane Values
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Airco DH2: 0 Albatros DII: 3
Morane Bullet: 0 Albatros DIII: 4
Nieuport 11: 0 Albatros DV: 2
Nieuport 17: 2 Fokker DRI: 4
Nieuport 24: 4 Fokker DVII: 4
Nieuport 28: 4 Fokker EIII: 0
SE5a: 2 Halberstadt DII: 0
Sopwith Camel: 4 Pfalz DIII: 2
Sopwith Pup: 3 Pfalz DXII: 2
Sopwith Snipe: 0
Sopwith Triplane: 0
SPAD VII: 2
SPAD XIII: 0
Bombed Target Values
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Aerodrome ( A): 12 Bridge (5): 4
Aerodrome (11): 0 Bridge (3): 4
Aerodrome ( 8): 0 Bridge (R): 4
Aerodrome ( 6): 0 Factory (5): 3
Aerodrome ( 5): 0 Factory (4): 3
Aerodrome ( T): 0 Rail Yard (--): 1
Supply Dump ( 5): 3 City 1
Supply Dump ( 4): 3 Town (-): 1
Supply Dump ( T): 3 Village (-): 1
Penalty Points
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Max Pilots Exceeded: 1.0 pts/min/pilot
Invalid Targets Attack: 0 pts/target (not activated)
Scout Target Attack: 0 pts/target
Friendly Target Attack: 0 pts/target
Authorized Central Bombers
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Albatros DII
Albatros DIII
Pfalz DIII
Authorized Allied Bombers
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Nieuport 17
Nieuport 24
Sopwith Pup
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10. DISABLED LOG LINES
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(Not counted in scoring.)
Re: Scores from Flying Coffins Fun Day April 03, 2011
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:10 pm
At what point was *A132 taken down in the logs. Was it still Red Boxed? I saw a drome destroyed message but thought the targets had changed. So is it 15 points or 0 points?
Fog
Fog
Re: Scores from Flying Coffins Fun Day April 03, 2011
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:31 pm
S! Fogel,
The logs clearly show that the target was boxed when destroyed:
04/03/11-22:28:20|Selected target destroyed and removed from available targets.
04/03/11-22:28:20|Target #132 destroyed by US95 NoMurC.
So it's 12 points to NoMurC for destroying the red boxed drome.
S!wordfish
The logs clearly show that the target was boxed when destroyed:
04/03/11-22:28:20|Selected target destroyed and removed from available targets.
04/03/11-22:28:20|Target #132 destroyed by US95 NoMurC.
So it's 12 points to NoMurC for destroying the red boxed drome.
S!wordfish
Re: Scores from Flying Coffins Fun Day April 03, 2011
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:44 pm
....Herr Gunter is a good fellow.... 
*****S!!!*****
...and Ive figured out my "no map" and "distances" for N,E,L....I loaded in an unnumbered old Jasta 1 map, and all was fine after that. Wish someone with more map/palmap expertise could mebbe check the custom FC map *hint*.....
But I'll be flying w/o target numbers I guess....back to using co-ordinates....all targets show on the blank map, even the lit ones. So for Foggy and others, the old Jasta 1 map fixes the issues.
*****S!!!*****...and Ive figured out my "no map" and "distances" for N,E,L....I loaded in an unnumbered old Jasta 1 map, and all was fine after that. Wish someone with more map/palmap expertise could mebbe check the custom FC map *hint*.....
But I'll be flying w/o target numbers I guess....back to using co-ordinates....all targets show on the blank map, even the lit ones. So for Foggy and others, the old Jasta 1 map fixes the issues.
Re: Scores from Flying Coffins Fun Day April 03, 2011
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:47 pm
Great job Swordfish! Thanks for the update and adjustment, things are looking very good for FC3 now!From now on, FC games will be scored with -4 points for AA/mech deaths and 0 points for "natural" cause of death as stated in the rules. If you notice anything else in the score that is wrong or inconsistent with the rules, please let me know.
Re: Scores from Flying Coffins Fun Day April 03, 2011
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:35 am
I'll go along with whatever you decide Swordfish.
I did kinda like the -4 points per death though, not just AA/Mech deaths.
I find it adds to the stress of the match, knowing how much you'll cost your team if you do something stupid.
I did kinda like the -4 points per death though, not just AA/Mech deaths.
I find it adds to the stress of the match, knowing how much you'll cost your team if you do something stupid.
Re: Scores from Flying Coffins Fun Day April 03, 2011
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:16 pm
...Re: Scores from Flying Coffins Fun Day April 03, 2011
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:51 pm
Huh? 