RBWar2 - week 4 score - Saturday, April 24, 2010 3pm est

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US95Pickett
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RBWar2 - week 4 score - Saturday, April 24, 2010 3pm est

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S! all,
First, my apology to all RBWar pilots for the RBWar2 Week 4 server only showing the D7 and Snipe when it was supposed to show the DR1 and D7 for the German Team, and the Camel and Snipe for the Allied Team. I checked the server file and it was correctly set to show the DR1 and D7 for the German Team, and the Camel and Snipe for the Allied Team. So I don't know what went wrong with the plane set up on the server; I will check further and try to find out the cause and make sure it doesn't happen again.

Second, this week 4 match was a tough battle; well fought by both sides :!:

The score for this week 4 match was as follows:

week4
..Central Score:
........Pre-penalty Score: .113
...........Penalty Points: ..-0
...........................----
......FINAL CENTRAL SCORE: .113

...Allied Score:
........Pre-penalty Score: .150
...........Penalty Points: ..-0
...........................----
.......FINAL ALLIED SCORE: .150

Now for the surprising fact:
The combined scores for weeks 1-4 for each teams is 463 !!! So we have a tie war after 4 weeks of matches. :o

RBWar2 scores, weeks 1-4
allied team
wk1 - 79
wk2 - 104
wk3 - 130
wk4 - 150

total 463

german team
wk1 - 109
wk2 - 117
wk3 - 124
wk4 - 113

total 463

I propose that we have a week 5 match to decide the winning team in RBWar2; what do you suggest/prefer?

Here's the RBWar2 week 4 scores:

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*        Red Baron Scoring Utility
*          Nebulous Enterprises
*              v3.0.0j beta
*
*       Match Date: 04/24/10
*
*       Score Date: 04-24-2010
*       Score Time: 17:14:56
*
*      Server Name: RBWar2 Tournament Server week 4
*       Server Map: Marne
*       Setup File: rbwar2_4.rbs
*
*                SCORE LOG
*------------------------------------------

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1. SUMMARY REPORT
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..Central Score:
........Pre-penalty Score: .113
...........Penalty Points: ..-0
...........................----
......FINAL CENTRAL SCORE: .113

...Allied Score:
........Pre-penalty Score: .150
...........Penalty Points: ..-0
...........................----
.......FINAL ALLIED SCORE: .150

..Total Central Pilots:.11...Max Central Pilots In:.11...Central Active Dromes: A40
...Total Allied Pilots:.12....Max Allied Pilots In:.12....Allied Active Dromes: A68


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2. ROSTER REPORT
-----------------
..............................Kill..Death.AA/M.........Tgt..Total..Target
..Central Pilots........Kills..Pts...Pts...Pts...Tgts..Pts...Pts...List
..--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
..FEA99 W.von Luft.........0.....0.....0.....0.....4....24....24...B155, R123, R124, F184
..J99°Dirk°OLT.............6....18.....6.....3.....0.....0.....9...
..J99°Hasso°CO.............4....12....18.....0.....0.....0....-6...
..J99°Himmelhu°Opi.........1.....3.....0.....0.....3....24....27...B152, C101, B167
..J99°Tornik°VFW...........6....18....21.....0.....1.....8.....5...F182
..JGS4*Cobra*32blt.........2.....6.....9.....0.....0.....0....-3...
..JGS4_Juanspain...........1.....3....12.....3.....0.....0...-12...
..JGS4_Te..................0.....0.....3.....0.....4....40....37...D114, R121, B143, *A68
..JGS4Jabato32b............4....12.....9.....0.....1.....8....11...D116
..Kestrel..................3.....9.....3.....0.....0.....0.....6...
..Monkey...................0.....0.....9.....0.....3....24....15...D112, D113, B179
........................----..----..----..----..----..----..----
..Central Pilot Totals....27....81....90.....6....16...128...113...

......................Penalties:.......Max Pilots Exceeded: ..-0 (0 min 0 sec)
..............................................Scout Attack: ..-0
...........................................Friendly Target: ..-0
............................................Invalid Target: ..-0
............................................................----
.......................................TOTAL CENTRAL SCORE: .113


..............................Kill..Death.AA/M.........Tgt..Total..Target
..Allied Pilots.........Kills..Pts...Pts...Pts...Tgts..Pts...Pts...List
..--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
..FigelGT..................9....27.....3.....0.....3....24....48...D109, F181, B146
..FogelGT..................3.....9.....6.....0.....0.....0.....3...
..FragelGT.................1.....3.....6.....0.....3....24....21...D106, B176, D108
..Muttley_EDp..............0.....0.....0.....0.....3....12....12...B148, V215, V209
..RAC_BigBertha............0.....0.....6.....3.....2....10.....1...B147, T193
..RAC_Draegon..............7....21.....6.....3.....0.....0....12...
..RAC_Flybert..............4....12.....9.....0.....0.....0.....3...
..RAC_PatGarrett...........0.....0.....9.....0.....3....36....27...*A40, D107, D105
..RAC_POPS.................0.....0.....9.....3.....1.....8....-4...D104
..RAC_Swordfish............3.....9....12.....0.....4....24....21...F180, R119, R118, C95
..US95 Waldo P XO..........2.....6.....6.....0.....0.....0.....0...
..US95Pickett..............1.....3.....9.....0.....2....12.....6...R120, B175
........................----..----..----..----..----..----..----
..Allied Pilot Totals.....30....90....81.....9....21...150...150...

......................Penalties:.......Max Pilots Exceeded: ..-0 (0 min 0 sec)
..............................................Scout Attack: ..-0
...........................................Friendly Target: ..-0
............................................Invalid Target: ..-0
............................................................----
........................................TOTAL ALLIED SCORE: .150


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3. AIRCRAFT DAMAGE REPORT
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..................Central Planes.....................Allied Planes
...............--------------------..............---------------------
..................Albatros DII:...0.....................Airco DH2:...0
.................Albatros DIII:...0.................Morane Bullet:...0
...................Albatros DV:...0...................Nieuport 11:...0
....................Fokker DRI:...0...................Nieuport 17:...0
...................Fokker DVII:..32...................Nieuport 24:...0
...................Fokker EIII:...0...................Nieuport 28:...0
...............Halberstadt DII:...0..........................SE5a:...0
....................Pfalz DIII:...0.................Sopwith Camel:...0
....................Pfalz DXII:...0...................Sopwith Pup:...0
....................................................Sopwith Snipe:..30
.................................................Sopwith Triplane:...0
.........................................................SPAD VII:...0
........................................................SPAD XIII:...0
...............................----...............................----
.....Central Planes Destroyed:...32......Allied Planes Destroyed:...30


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4. BOMBING DAMAGE REPORT
-------------------------

..........Allied Targets Destroyed...........Central Targets Destroyed.
..........-------------------------...........------------------------.
....................Aerodromes:...1....................Aerodromes:...1
..................Supply Dumps:...4..................Supply Dumps:...6
....................Rail Yards:...3....................Rail Yards:...3
.......................Bridges:...5.......................Bridges:...5
.....................Factories:...2.....................Factories:...2
.......Cities, Towns, Villages:...1.......Cities, Towns, Villages:...4
...............................----...............................----
......Total Targets Destroyed:...16......Total Targets Destroyed:...21

...Allied Targets Destroyed:.B155, R123, R124, F184, B152, C101, B167, F182, D114, R121, B143, *A68, D116, D112, D113, B179

..Central Targets Destroyed:.D109, F181, B146, D106, B176, D108, B148, V215, V209, B147, T193, *A40, D107, D105, D104, F180, R119, R118, C95, R120, B175


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5. PENALTY REPORT (SUMMARY)
----------------------------

..Central Penalties
..-----------------
.....................Grace Period: ..0 min
...................................--------------- 
........Total time over.12 pilots:...0 min..0 sec....penalty:..-0
.......Targets attacked by scouts:...0...............penalty:..-0
........Friendly targets attacked:...0...............penalty:..-0
.........Invalid targets attacked:...0...............penalty:..-0
.............................................................----
....................................Central Penalty Subtotal:..-0

..Allied Penalties
..-----------------
.....................Grace Period: ..0 min
...................................--------------- 
........Total time over.12 pilots:...0 min..0 sec....penalty:..-0
.......Targets attacked by scouts:...0...............penalty:..-0
........Friendly targets attacked:...0...............penalty:..-0
.........Invalid targets attacked:...0...............penalty:..-0
.............................................................----
.................................... Allied Penalty Subtotal:..-0



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6. PENALTY REPORT (DETAILED)
-----------------------------

..Central Penalties
..-----------------
....Scout Attacked Targets

....Friendly Targets Bombed

....Invalid Targets Bombed


..Allied Penalties
..----------------
....Scout Attacked Targets

....Friendly Targets Bombed

....Invalid Targets Bombed


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7. MULTIPLE DEATH REPORT
-------------------------

..Central Multiple Deaths Not Counted
..-----------------------------------


..Allied Multiple Deaths Not Counted
..-----------------------------------
....04/24/10-16:28:56|Kill of RAC_Swordfish (SOPWITH_SNIPE) awarded to JGS4Jabato32b (FOKKER_DVII)


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8. MULTIPLE BOMBING CREDIT REPORT
----------------------------------

..Central Multiple Bombing Credits Not Counted
..--------------------------------------------


..Allied Multiple Bombing Credits Not Counted
..--------------------------------------------


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9. SETTINGS REPORT
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Max Pilots Allowed:.12
..Multi-Death Time:.15 sec
......Grace Period:..0 min

..Points per Death:..3

..Aeroplane Values
..----------------
...........Airco DH2:..0........Albatros DII:..0
.......Morane Bullet:..0.......Albatros DIII:..0
.........Nieuport 11:..0.........Albatros DV:..0
.........Nieuport 17:..0..........Fokker DRI:..3
.........Nieuport 24:..0.........Fokker DVII:..3
.........Nieuport 28:..0.........Fokker EIII:..0
................SE5a:..0.....Halberstadt DII:..0
.......Sopwith Camel:..3..........Pfalz DIII:..0
.........Sopwith Pup:..0..........Pfalz DXII:..0
.......Sopwith Snipe:..3
....Sopwith Triplane:..0
............SPAD VII:..0
...........SPAD XIII:..0

..Bombed Target Values
..--------------------
......Aerodrome ( A):.20..........Bridge (5):..8
......Aerodrome (11):.20..........Bridge (3):..8
......Aerodrome ( 8):.20..........Bridge (R):..8
......Aerodrome ( 6):.20.........Factory (5):..8
......Aerodrome ( 5):.20.........Factory (4):..8
......Aerodrome ( T):.20......Rail Yard (--):..4
....Supply Dump ( 5):..8.................City..8
....Supply Dump ( 4):..8............Town (-):..2
....Supply Dump ( T):..8.........Village (-):..2

..Penalty Points
..--------------
.......Max Pilots Exceeded:.0.0 pts/min/pilot
....Invalid Targets Attack:...0 pts/target (not activated)
.......Scout Target Attack:...0 pts/target
....Friendly Target Attack:...0 pts/target

..Authorized Central Bombers
..--------------------------
..........Fokker DRI
.........Fokker DVII

..Authorized Allied Bombers
..-------------------------
.......Sopwith Camel
.......Sopwith Snipe


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10. DISABLED LOG LINES
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(Not counted in scoring.)
FEA99 Willi von Luft
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Re: RBWar2 - week 4 score - Saturday, April 24, 2010 3pm est

Post by FEA99 Willi von Luft »

Salute You All,

I have some questions:

1) Were we shorted on time with the server re-set? It appeared to me that the server was re-set some 20 minutes into the game. We the server game back on the timer were not re-set. Therefore we did not fly a full match.

Note: Wasn't there also a practice server running with the correct aircraft line-up? If so could that have affected the line-up of our match if both servers were up at the same time? These questions are predicated on the assumption that the tourney server and the practice server were running off the same system at the same time.

2) The match we flew was not the match advertised. Planning was based on the advertised info. We flew a differeent match. Therefore, how can we count this match as part of the series of this campaign when this match was not defined in terms of aircraft when the match schedule was released. IMHO, this match was not part of RBWAR 2.

IMHO, I think that a re-match is in order.

If was a fun and highly charged match.

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Re: RBWar2 - week 4 score - Saturday, April 24, 2010 3pm est

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S! all, yes, there were problems with today's match and all of those problems were MY MISTAKES :oops:

I just re-checked the server file again and found what caused the problem and it was my fault entirely... Although I had the correct planes marked as available in the server file, there was another section of the file that I failed to change to reflect the total number of planes available and that was what caused the problem of only one plane available per side.

And yes, the server didn't run the entire 2 hour match, but again, it was my fault. I have the computer server set to start the server through "Task Scheduler" in case I wasn't available to start the server manually, in addition to the RB server file settings. I had the RB server file settings set to run the match for 2 hours. The "Task Scheduler" was also set to run for two hours, but was set to start at 3 pm est. and end at 5 pm est. When I restarted the server using the "Task Scheduler", it still considered the start of the game to be 3 pm est even though the time of the restart was actually 3:15 pm est and that is what caused the game to run only 1 hour 45 minutes and shut down at 5 pm est. Again, it was entirely my fault.

So again, the server problems were entirely my fault, and I apologize to each of you. I have learned from these mistakes and hopefully they will not be repeated again.

Now, in regards to the match not running as advertised, both for the length of time (15 minutes short) and the number of available planes (only the D7 and the Snipe when it should have been the DR1, D7 and Camel, Snipe), I can only say that both sides suffered the same mishaps, not just one side. So both teams were equally handicapped by what happened; I don't think one side was at a disability more that the other side.

But I do agree a rematch/week 5 match should be played. More for the reason that both teams are now tied by the score of 463/463 after 4 weeks matches of RBWar2 more than because of the server problems of week 4 (again, both sides were equally affected by the week 4 server mishaps, and I again apologize for my mistakes in the week 4 server setup).

So, basically, we need to decide on when to have the rematch/week 5 match to decide the RBWar2 champions. Should we replay week 4 (Marne, DR1 D7 v Camel Snipe), or would you want to go to the Island map and E3 v Bullet ? And when, next weekend on Saturday or Sunday 3pm est?

EDIT: In regards to the tournament server and the practice servers, they are not on the same server. The tournament server is on a server that I lease from a company and pay for bandwidth consumed, etc. for the RBWar tournaments, the practice servers run from a server I own, and the teamspeak server is on a server that I lease from a different company for the RBWar. Oh, and the RBWar website and forum are on another server I own. So, it's four different servers that run for providing RBWar.
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Re: RBWar2 - week 4 score - Saturday, April 24, 2010 3pm est

Post by J99°Dirk »

Even with the problems... good gama anyway...

And... if it all ended up with a total draw... say agree, a nice draw... or do the rematch of todays match (with correct settings) to get a decision?! 8-)
War does not end up in a draw... :lol: ;)
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Re: RBWar2 - week 4 score - Saturday, April 24, 2010 3pm est

Post by FEA99 Willi von Luft »

Salute,

Thank you so much for your explanation. I have lernt something to look at when I am running a server.
I think for the re-match we ought to do today's game as it was originally planned.
Thank you so much for providing us with this tourney. I think I can safely say for the participants that all have enjoyed the game. It has been alot of fun and a an asset to the community. Thank you for the servers for both game and chatting.

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Re: RBWar2 - week 4 score - Saturday, April 24, 2010 3pm est

Post by Harry »

Salute! All!!


Was a great series!!


As for a rematch? Come on now the rules state
No Rules Lawyering
.

The last match as the Admin posted
that both sides suffered the same mishaps, not just one side. So both teams were equally handicapped by what happened
Seems very straight forward we ended up with a tie in scoring, this was suppose to be a FUN tournament, this "lawyering" is taking the "fun" out of the intention of this tourney.

So, lets leave it as a tie and as suggested get on with a tie breaker.
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Re: RBWar2 - week 4 score - Saturday, April 24, 2010 3pm est

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S! all, let's have RBWar2 week 5 next weekend on Sunday, May 2, 2010 at 3pm est to determine the RBWar2 champions. The server setup will be the same as week 4:
Marne map, DR1 and D7 versus Camel and Snipe.
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Re: RBWar2 - week 4 score - Saturday, April 24, 2010 3pm est

Post by PatGarrett »

I agree with the admin....and not just because im Allied....first start, both sides were short planes (allies were short the camel)....
Was agreed with J99_Dirk (who I assume was spokesman and attorney for Huns ;) ), that we would restart with same settings....second start, all flew and ACCEPTED situation as is, by doing so (wanna see a lawyer ?...lol)....so, therefore, by accepting situation and server reset "as is" with "possible" mixed results, both teams decided to fly "as is", and therefore were bound to accept the outcome....
Now, this is Picketts thing, and he's doing a great job so far.....Ive seen empty promises from others about "other wars", offered to help, yet never got replies.....hmmmm....
So, from the way I understand the rules, there "IS NO LAWYERING"....a la "DM" ?....sobeit, once you fly, you accept.....if you flew, you accepted it "as is".....
IMO, this match should NOT be reflown, because by all flying, was accepted by all.....this is also NOT a MAJOR war and was created by Pickett for fun because all others got their thumbs elsewhere.....and its only the first year....anyone remember the initial probs with CW ????....give Pickett a break......OR step up and present yer own !
So I agree with the suggestion of a "week 5"....same map, with server properly set, for final score....unless of course the few lawyers have issues with that....and honestly, if "they" get their way, I wont be flying again in this....it will be then no different than WF and RBWL with same BS....and thats exactly what this war was trying to get away from.....
THIS IS FOR FUN !....lets all try to remember that.........BOTH sides were equally hindered.....so, whats the issue ??????? ....deal with it !
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Re: RBWar2 - week 4 score - Saturday, April 24, 2010 3pm est

Post by Flybert »

I'm for a tiebreaker not a rematch .. no one said Dirk should pull his players out of the game .. you stay in the air and until there is an agreement and if it weren't for J99's actions we could have clearly agreed to continue the game with D7 and Snipe only for it's full time

.. just see no reason to complain where there was no practical advantage nor disadvantage for either side, especially where the delay was caused by Central, in my view.

Think it's perfect that the series tied :mrgreen: .. we should continue until someone wins by 10 points in my opinion :twisted:

most of all .. more RBWar FUN having this result
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Re: RBWar2 - week 4 score - Saturday, April 24, 2010 3pm est

Post by Kestrel »

No need to apologize Admin, stuff happens. The server was there and it worked well, and we all got to fly. Thank you for that. I say let the match stand and call it a draw. If there's a week 5 voted on, then that will decide the whole thing.
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